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JohnHunt
04-20-2010, 06:45 PM
Moonus111 mentioned elsewhere that he is thinking about a video blog to raise awareness about issues related to space development.

Logan, if you found this thread, can you explain more about what you are thinking about for your video blog?

Sam Fraser
04-20-2010, 07:41 PM
A related idea is creating one or more YouTube channels, which a video blog could work in tandem with. We've discussed before the idea of doing 3D animations of PERMANENT concepts that could be uploaded to YouTube. However, that requires skilled animators, possibly hi-spec PCs, some complex software and lots of time. On the other hand, a video blog can be done by anyone with an average PC, webcam and basic editing software. So, I'd love to hear more from moon, too.

JohnHunt
04-21-2010, 05:58 PM
There is so much picture and video content available on the web which would make for nice voice-overs. It seems as though YouTube is sort of the wild west of the Internet. I wonder if we can use pictures and small video clips to illustrate the voice blog or whether the video would have to be taken down due to copyright infringement. Given how much use of other people's material there is I am thinking that copyright holders frequently don't really care. If care is given to giving verbal credit to the copyright holders, perhaps this would make it more likely that they wouldn't care. I'm presuming that NASA's stuff is free for the taking, yes?

moonus111
04-21-2010, 07:34 PM
I'm flattered. Any help would be well appreciated. I'll be sure to mention this forum, that is if you guys want the traffic. What I want to do is to spread the word about the concept. My ultimate goal is to get the idea to be discussed by average people. Where 10-15 years ago these ideas may have not been economical today they are.

I have made already made few test videos and haven't put them up. yet... http://www.youtube.com/user/moonus111

And yes it is my face up there.....


My hardware:
-2 dual core boxes 1 hooked up to 4 22" widescreens and one box with 2 22" widescreens
-An assortment of older P4 computers set up to do odd tasks, and two old ubuntu server boxes
-8 22" widescreens in total in my computer dungeon 9 if you count the one in the bedroom
-a Flip (specifically designed camera for HD youtube videos)
- video editing software, I'm learning how to use it.

What I don't have:
- intro-outro-bumber videos
- Any content other than words
- A format
- lots of time



Any help would be well appreciated!!!

moonus111
04-23-2010, 02:27 AM
1st post is scheduled for Saturday.

I'm having technical difficulties and won't post until I get them resolved

Sam Fraser
04-23-2010, 06:52 PM
Fantastic videos with a great pitch, Logan. Made my heart race. I'm not kidding. :cool:

moonus111
04-26-2010, 03:49 PM
I know it's the best pitch I've heard yet.

moonus111
05-05-2010, 04:15 PM
Well I've been working steadily on this, and I can't seem to find a resolution that solves the quality problem. So I'll just post when I have something up and running.

moonus111
05-07-2010, 07:18 PM
First 2 posts of 7 ready to go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NatSd-zUtNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzlvRetFdbY

Please comment (even if negative)

detailed feedback?

Phenix
05-07-2010, 08:56 PM
Hello Logan,
I just watched your two videos.

Please take a slower pace speech and drink some water just before you start, I am not keeding it does help for a 10 minutes speech. Take a breath and pause for 10 seconds between each point being developped.

On arguments, you do make your points thoughtfully. You do have the courage to stand up and say things loud without any taboos and that's really good and I appreciate that a lot.

I would like to know one thing if you are going to say we is it we(America) or we(All Earth Nations) ?

Rhyshaelkan
05-07-2010, 09:02 PM
I think you have a great voice for speaking. You did not mumble(big pet-peeve of mine about some speakers). You did stumble. But as one that has attempted to give speeches, I know it is not the easiest thing to avoid stumbling.


Oops there was a second part. Had to watch the second part too ;)

I like your outlines for both. As an informative piece, I might suggest an expansion on a few points. Which I will watch the videos again and write down the additional info I think is missing. If you would not find it presumptuous ;) .

The finish was excellent though "Spread the word, bring up the topic for discussion with friends. There are solutions out there which, if we get enough people to support the program, might be the answer to a great many problems that face humanity."

joertexas
05-07-2010, 09:10 PM
Hello Logan,
I just watched your two videos.

Please take a slower pace speech and drink some water just before you start, I am not keeding it does help for a 10 minutes speech. Take a breath and pause for 10 seconds between each point being developped.

On arguments, you do make your points thoughtfully. You do have the courage to stand up and say things loud without any taboos and that's really good and I appreciate that a lot.

I would like to know one thing if you are going to say we is it we(America) or we(All Earth Nations) ?

To me, it's we as in everyone standing on the planetary surface, less anyone with ideas of using what we're developing as a weapon.

JR

Rhyshaelkan
05-07-2010, 09:21 PM
As all nations have, will have, will increase to have, energy needs. It will or should, be a global project.

Phenix
05-07-2010, 09:22 PM
To me, it's we as in everyone standing on the planetary surface, less anyone with ideas of using what we're developing as a weapon.

JR

Great point Joe ;)

moonus111
05-07-2010, 09:36 PM
Hello Logan,
I just watched your two videos.

Please take a slower pace speech and drink some water just before you start, I am not keeding it does help for a 10 minutes speech. Take a breath and pause for 10 seconds between each point being developped.

On arguments, you do make your points thoughtfully. You do have the courage to stand up and say things loud without any taboos and that's really good and I appreciate that a lot.

I would like to know one thing if you are going to say we is it we(America) or we(All Earth Nations) ?

Thanks for the feedback, I am going to be updating these as I get better at communicating the information, but I'm not sure how yet. So the input is appreciated very much. After the first test I found out I have over an hour and a half of material, so it's difficult to compress without talking fast, but I'll have to work on it constantly... especially since I get jazzed up and excited about the subject.

When I say "we" I mean all earth nations, and the US. It's a good point to bring up... We is a word I like to use because it is inclusive, but how to be inclusive yet make points on internal US issues?!?

The problem is that America is the only nation known capable of achieving the concept, but the world should know about the plan in also because the problems are global, and this solution is global. I'm stumped as to what to say or how to draw a line for talking points. I might have to restart on 3 and 4....

7 is going to be awesome though.

moonus111
05-07-2010, 09:53 PM
wow, while i was typing that response I see the thread boomed.

weaponization has been covered, I don't have time to look up the link.

Anyone and any input is appreciated.

Phenix
05-07-2010, 10:00 PM
When I say "we" I mean all earth nations, and the US. It's a good point to bring up... We is a word I like to use because it is inclusive, but how to be inclusive yet make points on internal US issues?!?

The problem is that America is the only nation known capable of achieving the concept, but the world should know about the plan in also because the problems are global, and this solution is global.

Agreed, the problem is global THUS the solution IS NEEDED TO BE global.
I would suggest for enrolling more International folks World Wide that you should use the WE on behalf of all Earth Nations and if you could hit the Banking Traders sensibility as well on mass income making of Space it would be an awesome echo World Wide.

Mark Prado
05-08-2010, 07:16 AM
This is definitely the right track and a very good start.

The speaker's voice and tempo is fine to me, though I'd adjust some of the pauses after some points.

In my opinion, we need to change the style to be less folksy in some parts, work on the script to be more precise and carefully worded (and professional), and mix in a lot of photos, especially public domain photos but also request permission for some private ones if worth it. (If we have some public donations, we could hire some friendly artists at mates' rates to create some custom artwork, as some pay and a contractual agreement is the best way to get things done...)

If we are to collaborate on this, then we should standardize on software to use.

What's the best software for creating these videos, in terms of user friendliness with a basic set of features, not in terms of advanced features? I've seen advanced software which is a pain as regards the basics ... and like the old Macintosh commercial said, "The most powerful computer is not the one with the most MIPS, it's the one people use."

The basics are:

1. Easily cut and paste soundtrack segments, with a timer for precision and perhaps other tools to put all this together

2. Same for viewgraphs and photos, alongside soundtrack, and also allow animations and videos interspersed

... easily so that we can actually get people to collaborate on this.

The software shouldn't cost too much. I'm not a fan of free software which is difficult or problematic, but if there's something free out there that's truly good and free created by some open source group or an already wealthy programmer, great. Otherwise, I'm fine to pay for my software and help support its creators, especially with considerate design for usability and practical features.

Sam Fraser
05-10-2010, 03:25 AM
I think you've got a good voice for narration/voice over, Logan. I don't think stammers or stutters are a big deal. It makes it sound more spontaneous and real, and not rehearsed and fake. A lot of YouTube clips are pitch-perfect and stutter-free, and they just lack energy and authenticity to me. I really liked your point about the two kinds of green. That's a simple but memorable pitch. You need a proofreader, though, e.g. "fourm". :cool: I can do that for you if you like.

So how did you create this? What software did you use? PowerPoint? How was the audio recorded in sync?

joertexas
05-10-2010, 05:24 AM
I think you've got a good voice for narration/voice over, Logan. I don't think stammers or stutters are a big deal. It makes it sound more spontaneous and real, and not rehearsed and fake. A lot of YouTube clips are pitch-perfect and stutter-free, and they just lack energy and authenticity to me. I really liked your point about the two kinds of green. That's a simple but memorable pitch. You need a proofreader, though, e.g. "fourm". :cool: I can do that for you if you like.

So how did you create this? What software did you use? PowerPoint? How was the audio recorded in sync?

Great job, Logan!

JR

Sam Fraser
05-11-2010, 05:14 AM
So when's part 3?! :cool:

moonus111
05-12-2010, 02:02 AM
The powerpoint was made using openoffice, but I converted it to ppt and uploaded to google docs:
http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dgfjvrj7_3htbr9wgs

Anyone wanting to edit just email me and I'll add you.


I was going to redo 3 and 4, but I'll just make them public for reviewing purposes. They're not as good as 1 & 2, but I'm probably going to be improving all of these videos over time anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BhX5uCa8w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BhX5uCa8w

7 - the viral video is done, but the upload takes time to get right.


free screen-casting software is easy to come by, if anyone wants to take a crack at it?

Sam Fraser
05-12-2010, 07:12 PM
These new additions are great, Logan. I'll give you my e-mail address by PM.

Rhyshaelkan
05-16-2010, 11:16 PM
Sure no one wants to be a copycat. But have a gander at this Astrium video.

Some of the voices you hear are also tuned to keep pace with the music. I just think it is a well done video.

gglTaRU8O5Q

moonus111
05-17-2010, 12:42 AM
I could totally rip this off...

moonus111
05-17-2010, 03:10 AM
So I'm still having quality issues with my video software, but I have 1 video that I made without editing to add.

There's this camera contest that I'm going to enter. I don't expect to win, but I'm still going to add the video because the exposure is awesome.

Here's a browser for the entries
http://www.youtube.com/user/getolympus#p/u

Here's my submission, thumbs it up plz!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3JSP6BZ3es

Sam Fraser
05-17-2010, 06:16 PM
OK, Logan, I logged in and gave a thumbs up, as well as left a comment. C'mon everyone, create a YouTube account and vote!

BTW, did anyone else find the presenter on that Olympus clip incredibly annoying? What was the deal with his neck? Was he wearing bifocals? And what was with the chimpanzee mating snarl every two seconds?

moonus111
05-18-2010, 05:57 PM
I SOLVED this stupid quality/audio sync issue last night, here are the results
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B9MruGW_8M

I'm going to start putting out videos like mad now, but this one is special! How realistic does the WTC in the background look.

The hope is that this video goes viral, and we get a lot of exposure out of it.

and yes that guy was annoying

Sam Fraser
05-19-2010, 09:07 AM
The WTC was quite realistic in the background, mainly because you matched camera angles quite well and you filmed in natural sunlight like the original photo. The lighting fluctuated, but you can't control the clouds. How was that composited? BTW, I think standing and talking looks more natural and allows you to use body language more effectively.

As for conspiracy theories, I find them generally offensive. We live in an amazing technological and scientific age with the world's knowledge at your fingertips. You have to remain deliberately ignorant about a topic to believe in some irrational and debunked theory when the facts are available for free. Some people just have too much time on their hands.

Rhyshaelkan
05-19-2010, 04:54 PM
Hehe, if Logan wanted to do a PERMANENT awareness video we could always green-screen him against some nice star and moon backdrops. Allowing him to stand and gesture.

Not sure how talking about space would work while talking in front of a forest.

"Hypocrite talking about space while enjoying nature!" LOL

moonus111
05-19-2010, 05:58 PM
Would it surprise you to know that it was NOT shot with bluescreen. That's the genius of it, it was a real shot, no bluescreen. How I did it, is something I trust in the intelligence of people to find out. It makes the video a mockery of conspiracies, because it's so wrapped up in the subject that once you figure it out it's lame.

This video is seriously meant to go viral.

I can do bluescreen, but I haven't tried it yet. I've got a idea about one that I want to do that requires bluescreen.

joertexas
05-19-2010, 11:16 PM
Would it surprise you to know that it was NOT shot with bluescreen. That's the genius of it, it was a real shot, no bluescreen. How I did it, is something I trust in the intelligence of people to find out. It makes the video a mockery of conspiracies, because it's so wrapped up in the subject that once you figure it out it's lame.

This video is seriously meant to go viral.

I can do bluescreen, but I haven't tried it yet. I've got a idea about one that I want to do that requires bluescreen.

It's looking good, Logan.

JR

JohnHunt
05-21-2010, 06:53 AM
Logan,

I have collected 19 pictures which illustrate the points that you make in your 4th presentation. I don't know if you want to use them or if you are able to use them. Let me know how I can send them to you. As I mentioned before, I think that it could significantly increase the general interest in your presentations.

joertexas
05-21-2010, 04:55 PM
Logan,

I have collected 19 pictures which illustrate the points that you make in your 4th presentation. I don't know if you want to use them or if you are able to use them. Let me know how I can send them to you. As I mentioned before, I think that it could significantly increase the general interest in your presentations.

I don't know if this dovetails with your PR effort, but it's surely relevant to an investor:

http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/

JR

moonus111
05-21-2010, 06:49 PM
I'm extremely limited on time, so yes I'll have a look at them. My major concern is copyright. I don't mind bending it and simply linking to where the source is. If you're ambitious enough I can give you edit permissions on googledocs.

I meant for there to be 3 videos, but I couldn't get each of them to be under 10 minutes (the youtube requirement). So I'm not sure If you're talking about redoing 3&4 or if you're talking about 5&6

1. The Plan (1&2)
2. Implications (3&4)
3. Persuasion (5&6 not yet up)

I'd like to announce that I've gotten some positive feedback on some of the other videos already. I'd like to hear if & when our forum has a membership/viewership spike, because that would mean I'm doing my job correctly. As of yet I don't see that great of an impact though.

moonus111
05-21-2010, 11:50 PM
I've been trying to figure out how to get some exposure from the google lunar x-prize

Rhyshaelkan
05-22-2010, 05:37 AM
I was sure I had linked this video on the forum before. Perhaps not. However this is worth a look at by all. It spells it all out. SPSs, lunar fuel the whole shebang.

9K4zosGUMBw

JohnHunt
05-23-2010, 04:31 PM
Hi Logan,

Re: copyright, I believe that U can use pictures from others. But if others contact U or Youtube then U would have to remove those images upon request. It seems as though it is pretty rare that anyone does so.

So, how can I send U those photos? I have them numbered so that U can easily see what it would look like by flipping thru them wile listening to the audio.

Sam Fraser
05-24-2010, 08:29 AM
I would preempt any potential problems just by using NASA images in the public domain and ensuring they are credited.

moonus111
06-08-2010, 07:07 PM
in a bit of a rut right now.

I think I might attend this: http://www.apollocon.org/

I'm working on an intro/outro/bumper to improve the v-blog before I do any more crappy vids

Sam Fraser
06-08-2010, 08:25 PM
You and the rest of the planet. :p This guy looks interesting given his background:

http://www.apollocon.org/guests.html#abell

JohnHunt
07-14-2010, 12:57 AM
Hi Logan,

Check out the following TED talk video about how YouTube deals with copyright issues. I think that it will allay concerns that you might have about copyright violation. Since YouTube has a mechanism set up for addressing copyright issues then its more about seeing if the reworked video is accepted. Most likely it will be.

http://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_stewart_how_youtube_thinks_about_copyrigh t.html

Can you give me your email address so that I can send you those 19 pictures? johnhunt2001-at-gmail